Marie Claire Marie Claire
  • Celebrity
  • Fashion
  • Beauty
  • Culture
  • Power
  • Nice Talk
  • Fashion Month
  • More
    • Politics
    • Career Money
    • Health Fitness
    • Power Play
    • Travel
    • Promo Codes
    • Food Cocktails
    • About Us
    • Subscribe
    • Sex Love
  • Newsletter SIGN UP TO OUR NEWSLETTER
  • Marie Claire
    Marie Claire Newsletter

    Celebrity news, beauty, fashion advice, and fascinating features, delivered straight to your inbox!


    By submitting your information you agree to the Terms Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

    You are now subscribed

    Your newsletter sign-up was successful


    Want to add more newsletters?

    Marie Claire Daily

    Delivered daily

    Marie Claire Daily

    Get exclusive access to fashion and beauty trends, hot-off-the-press celebrity news, and more.

    Marie Claire Self Checkout

    Sent weekly on Saturday

    Marie Claire Self Checkout

    Exclusive access to expert shopping and styling advice from Nikki Ogunnaike, Marie Claire's editor-in-chief.

    Maire Claire Face Forward

    Once a week

    Maire Claire Face Forward

    Insider tips and recommendations for skin, hair, makeup, nails and more from Hannah Baxter, Marie Claire's beauty director.

    Livingetc

    Once a week

    Livingetc

    Your shortcut to the now and the next in contemporary home decoration, from designing a fashion-forward kitchen to decoding color schemes, and the latest interiors trends.

    Homes amp; Gardens

    Delivered Daily

    Homes Gardens

    The ultimate interior design resource from the world's leading experts - discover inspiring decorating ideas, color scheming know-how, garden inspiration and shopping expertise.


    An account already exists for this email address, please log in.
    Trending
    • NYFW
    • Life In Plastic
    • Cari Champion
    • New Books
    • Postpartum Psychosis
    1. Culture

    Drybar Founder Alli Webb Built a Blowout Empire—But Felt "Very Insecure" About Her Own Hair

    The entrepreneur chats with editor-in-chief Nikki Ogunnaike on 'Nice Talk'.

    By Lia Beck
    Published 21 August 2025 In News

    When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

    A photo of Nikki Ogunnaike with an inset photo of Alli Webb and text reading quot;Money. Power. Style. Nice Talk with Nikki Ogunnaikequot;
    (Image credit: Courtesy of Messy)
    • Facebook
    • X
    • Pinterest
    Share this article
    Join the conversation
    Follow us
    Add us as a preferred source on Google
    Subscribe to our newsletter

    With her company Drybar, Alli Webb built an empire around the idea of "perfect" hair. The chain of salons—which she sold in 2019 for $255 million—offered no cuts or color, only blowouts in a range of styles. As the founder and face of a brand devoted to sleek hair, Webb felt she had to embody that perfection herself—or at least look like it. Yet at the height of her success, she was deeply insecure about her own hair.

    "I wanted my hair to look a certain way, so then I wore extensions forever. And I was so insecure when I would wear extensions, because as someone who's, like, very obsessed about their hair, I was always nervous you could see [them]," Webb tells editor-in-chief Nikki Ogunnaike on the latest episode of the Marie Claire podcast "Nice Talk".

    "I never went anywhere without a handheld mirror. Every time I went to a bathroom, I would look at the back of my hair, make sure nothing was fucking showing," Webb continues. "I felt this pressure that I had to have this long, beautiful, perfect hair, and my hair wasn't. It was broken and damaged."

    Latest Videos FromMarie Claire
    Watch full video here:

    Webb says she felt "so blessed" to be featured in magazines, do photoshoots, and appear on Shark Tank—but admits she was wearing extensions during "all these very big moments in my life."

    "I can't tell you how many times they were like, 'Will she put extensions in?' Because it was just, like, I was supposed to have this perfect, beautiful hair." But rather than boosting her confidence, the extensions made her feel "terrible."

    You may like
    • A promotional graphic for Nice Talk with Nikki Ogunnaike and Issa Rae. Issa Rae Thinks Now Is the Best Time to Be a Creative
    • A woman with curly hair in the middle of a collage that features pictures of various women getting ready. Tracee Ellis Ross’s ‘70s “Porn Hair” Is Made Possible by This Very Specific Hot Tool
    • A photo of Nikki Ogunnaike with an inset photo of Michelle Buteau and text reading Money. Power. Style. Nice Talk with Nikki Ogunnaike Why Michelle Buteau Is Glad She Was Pitted Against Other Women Comics

    "I felt almost, like, not enough. It's funny, I've never actually talked about this, but I remember that made me feel very insecure."

    A post shared by Alli Webb (@alliwebb)

    A photo posted by on

    Webb says the pressure to project perfection went far beyond her hair.

    Marie Claire Newsletter

    Celebrity news, beauty, fashion advice, and fascinating features, delivered straight to your inbox!

    By submitting your information you agree to the Terms Conditions and Privacy Policy and are aged 16 or over.

    "I really felt like I had to be perfect, and I had to have the perfect hair, and—I was married to my co-founder—this perfect marriage, and these perfect kids ... And it just was a little hollow, you know, and a little unrealistic, and I kind of kept up that facade."

    Still, she adds, "I loved what we were doing, and I loved the fact that we were giving women confidence. And at that time, 15 years ago, it felt like the world needed it, and it was the right thing at the right time."

    These days, Webb says the “pendulum has swung” in the opposite direction. Her new brand of haircare products, called Messy, is all about embracing ease—using low heat or letting hair air dry. Even the products’ names are affirmations: the styling cream, for instance, is called is called "I Am Enough." (And now, Webb says she feels “giddy” about her hair.)

    "I was 35 when I started Drybar, and our tagline was 'crafted for the perfect blowout.' But, you know, as my own personal evolution and journey, I'm like, I just don't subscribe to that anymore," the now 50-year-old shares. "It's like, yeah, I did start Drybar, and it was a huge success, and I'm so incredibly proud of it, and I always will be. And now I'm just in a different place. You can be, too. We don't have to be who we were yesterday."

    For more from Webb—including how she started Drybar, the best career advice she's received, and how the pandemic inspired Messy—check out this week's installment of "Nice Talk". The episode is available everywhere you listen to podcasts.

    Explore More
    Nice Talk
    Lia Beck

    Lia Beck is a writer living in Brooklyn, NY, who covers entertainment, celebrity, and lifestyle. The former celebrity news editor at Bustle, she has also written for Refinery29, Hello Giggles, Cosmopolitan, PEOPLE, Entertainment Weekly, and more.

    Read more
    A woman with curly hair in the middle of a collage that features pictures of various women getting ready.
    Hair Tracee Ellis Ross’s ‘70s “Porn Hair” Is Made Possible by This Very Specific Hot Tool Nothing is off the table.
    By Ariel Wilson
    a yellow blowdryer held up by a white hand on a golden brown background with two photos of women with blowdried hair
    Hair Little Did I Know the Key to Getting More Volume In My Fine Hair Was a New Blow Dryer Drybar’s new Buttercup Pro gave me the glassiest hair.
    By Samantha Holender
     
     
    a watery mint background with three photos of a young white woman with brown hair and glowing skin in stylish outfits
    Beauty Claudia Sulewski's Secret to Feeling Like a Hot Girl Costs $0 "Those are the days where I am feeling so confident about myself and feeling like that hot b*tch."
    By Hannah Baxter
    samantha holender next to the tangle teezer brush
    Hair I Never Thought a $23 Brush for Fine Hair Would Be the Trick to Stopping Breakage I’ll happily take the win, though.
    By Samantha Holender
     
     
    Latest in Culture
    A still of Taylor Frankie Paul and Ben Lambert in #039;The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.#039;
    TV shows 'The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives' Season 6 Is Already Filming. Here's All the Updates So Far
    A split image of author R.F. Kuang, resting her head on her hand while sitting with her shoulder propped on a restaurant booth table, next to the cover art for #039;Taipei Story.#039;
    Books R.F. Kuang Shares Her Favorite Reads About the “Hilarious Friction” of Learning a Language
     
     
    A photo of Nikki Ogunnaike with an inset photo of Cari Champion and text reading Money. Power. Style. Nice Talk with Nikki Ogunnaike
    Culture Cari Champion on the Culture War Around the WNBA: "This Is All a Distraction"
    A man in a black suit (Hyun Bin as Baek Kitae) sits at an ornate desk, with the Korean flag behind him, in Hulu#039;s #039;Made in Korea.#039;
    TV shows Hyun Bin and Woo Do-hwan Tease Their Sibling Rivalry in 'Made in Korea' Season 2
     
     
    Latest in News
    Grace Gummer and Louisa Jacobson red carpet looks at the 2026 Emmy Awards
    Celebrity Style Meryl Streep's Daughters Make Their Mom Proud on the 2026 Emmys Red Carpet
    three women in glamorous hair, makeup, and gowns on a blue Emmys step and repeat
    Beauty The Most Jaw-Dropping 2026 Emmys Live Red Carpet Beauty Looks
     
     
    Grace Kelly wearing a white dress
    Royals Grace Kelly "Understood Quiet Luxury" Before the Term Was Invented
    collage of celebrities wearing the red-and-purple color combination trend for The A-List Edit
    Celebrity Style The Shockingly Chic Color Combo That's Taking Over the Runways and My FYP
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Marie Claire
    RSS
    • About us
    • Contact Future's experts
    • Contact us
    • Advertise Online
    • Newsletter
    • Terms and conditions
    • Privacy policy
    • Cookies policy
    • Careers
    Add as a preferred source on Google Add as a preferred source on Google

    Marie Claire is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Visit our corporate site.

    © Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036.